Lisa Ray talks Bollywood, bulimia; and how she loved and lived on her own terms

The 47-yr-old, who stumbled into B-town at sixteen, says she has since learnt to find love within herself.

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Lisa Ray says the Bollywood she saw was not that 'glossy and sophisticated'.
One of India’s first supermodels, an accidental actor, cancer survivor, mother of twins through surrogacy, a global citizen. These are various labels that could be attached to the personality of Lisa Ray. Yet, as her recently-released memoir, 'Close to the Bone' reveals, the 47-year-old who stumbled into the Indian entertainment industry at sixteen (and almost starred in a Bond film!) doesn’t approve of labels at all.

From talking about her body-image issues to her complex relationship with food, bulimia, and pursuing love, on her own terms, she can be funny, charming, and searingly honest all at once. Lopamudra Ghatak of ET Online caught up with her to know what gave her hope and courage to carry on.

Lopamudra Ghatak: Half-Bengali, half-Polish, born and raised in Canada, spent summer vacations in Calcutta, studied theatre in England, and worked in Hollywood and Bollywood projects. What comprises the worldview of Lisa Ray? Would you call yourself a global citizen?

Lisa Ray:
I have passed through many versions of myself over the years, in different latitudes. Today, I am at that stage where I just call myself “me” - the sum of all experiences and circumstances. Earlier, I would have tried to find a label for myself. My life, too, has also been a process of moving through many different labels. Being a mixed blood individual - facing identity issues was a very big driving force and influence - I have had to grapple with where I really belonged, a classic case of the “mixed-blood child” or the “culture kid”.

Before “global citizen” became a popular label, I was already one, thanks to my kaleidoscopic genes. And I think that it’s less of being a global citizen and more a function of the fact that everything is a mosaic in my life, and my nomadic spirit and restlessness have all contributed to my world view.




LG: And Calcutta - before it became Kolkata - has played a certain role in shaping your worldview. Did the Bengali gene overpower the Polish strain?

LR:
(Smiling) I believe it certainly did, much to the horror of my Polish grandmother who has been a strong presence in my life. I think I was just naturally aligned. The Bengali influence has been very endearing in my life and the time spent in Calcutta in my teens during summer vacations left an imprint. It opened up my imagination and made me see life very differently.

The chaos and confusion in the city coloured my worldview, and my subsequent life choices. Coming from a Western society, where on the surface everything is clean, efficient and rational, the uninhibited existence and madness kind of drew me to it.
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LG: In your memoir, 'Close To the Bone', you describe your stint in Bollywood as that of an outsider who came, saw and managed to keep her calm without being consumed by it.

LR:
I joined tinsel town when the city was still called Bombay. It was the early ’90s and the economy was undergoing change. The Bollywood I saw was not that glossy, sophisticated and technologically advanced. It hadn’t been corporatised yet; professionalism was still a tough ask (the male lead not showing up on set in time, dialogue being scribbled on paper).

I was always an outsider and enjoyed that status, watching, observing, maybe also because it was not something that I had aspired to do. I was shocked that I had even landed in such an industry, and that’s why I felt that I had to tell my story because it sounds highly improbable today when a lot of people are aspiring to be a part of the industry. And while my equation with Bollywood has been a complex one - my relationship with the industry, the Lisa Ray persona - I was always aware that this was not for me. I was comfortable but never enough to stay put.

In ​her recently-released memoir, 'Close to the Bone',  Ray reveals that she doesn’t approve of labels at all. ​
In her recently-released memoir, 'Close to the Bone', Ray reveals that she doesn’t approve of labels at all.

LG: Talking about complex relationships, you’ve had a love-hate equation with food. You’ve also fought bulimia and body-image issues in your formative years. Did you feel intimidated to share such details in “Close to the Bone”? Were you apprehensive about your image being impacted?
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LR:
To be honest, no. I find it easier to be truthful than keep secrets, and that’s who I am today, it was not always like this. I find that there is a great relief and strength in sharing, and often, as if by magic, you tend to connect with people in a much more authentic way. We all have our wounds, scars and issues. Nobody is perfect, and yet we are expected to project this very unnatural kind of image, of being unflawed, and that flaws are bad. I want to question that school of thinking, and perhaps start a dialogue about that.

My relationship with food has been complex because I also love it. Many of my earliest memories are tied up with food, and food is also an expression of love, cultural identity. Anorexia or bulimia is like a mental disease and has nothing to do with a person’s external image. Having worked closely in the fashion and entertainment space, I know that it’s prevalent and I would probably recognise the signs when I see.

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When I was battling bulimia, I had also managed to create a kind of ‘touch-me-not-wall’ around myself that stopped any of my friends from having a conversation with me. At the same time, I was very, very secretive and ashamed as well. But am glad that there is more awareness today and people are willing to talk about it.

Ray says she has passed through many versions of herself over the years, in different latitudes. ​
Ray says she has passed through many versions of herself over the years, in different latitudes.

LG: You’ve also been frank about love, your relationships and the boundaries that you’ve breached. And love, too, hasn’t been easy…

LR: Who I am today is radically different but I am also the culmination of all my past experiences. I don’t think I’d have ever cared to do things differently because my solitary goal has been to experience the full breadth of life. How can you understand what love is unless you go through many sorts of misadventures and missteps and throw yourself into what you feel is love, at the moment. And maybe it was love but it’s the sort of love that burns out, a self-absorbed love.

The search for love is a big thing in everyone’s life, and finally I have realised that instead of chasing love, I had to find love within myself. Only then would I be able to contribute love to someone else in order to create a loving relationship.

LG: At 37, you were diagnosed with Multiple Myeloma in 2009. After being cancer-free for two years, you had a relapse in 2012 around the time of your marriage. What gave you the hope and courage to carry on?

LR: I don’t know ... (pauses) to be honest. All I can posit is that I’ve always been a questioning soul, and while I have not always perhaps found definitive answers but I’ve questioned nevertheless. My questioning has led me in many different directions and a part of it has been self-development and spiritual development, that led me to meet very interesting people who went on to become guides and teachers.

Perhaps, all of this kind of created a bank of hope and courage inside me that I was able to draw on when I was diagnosed and faced a relapse. That is the actual purpose of spiritual development: being able to draw on strength when you are in a pickle, and I was able to get my strength and inner resilience that led me to help myself heal better.

LG: Who is the quintessential Lisa Ray?

LR: (Smiles, eyes twinkle) Hmmm. (pauses) I think that would be curious, nomadic (also traveller) and loving.


*Lisa Ray's memoir 'Close to the Bone' is published by HarperCollins India.

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