Vision 2020 is a moon shot: Vishal Sikka, Infosys

The long-term trajectory, the revenue per FTE has improved, the margins have held steady and we have grown in line with the industry, says Sikka

Vision 2020 is a moon shot: Vishal Sikka, Infosys

In a chat with ET Now, Vishal Sikka, CEO, Infosys, says many years ago at Infosy had aspiration to be a $10 billion company by 2010 and we just recently crossed $10 billion. Like that, vision 2020 is also an aspiration.

Edited excerpts:


How do you expect Infosys to grow?

The demand for new services, the demand from the software led services, the platform led services is great. Last year, as I mentioned earlier, 65% of our workforce worked on 55% of our revenue and this is the part that is becoming more commoditised. On the other hand, 35% of our workforce works on 45% of our revenue at a much higher RPP and much stronger growth.

In that area. we have seen close to 20% growth in the last year and we expect very strong growth this year as well.

For the software platform Mana, in less than four quarters we have reached more than 50 clients. It has more than doubled every quarter. So there is a very strong sense of optimism that we have in the new areas and we have to bring automation and an operational focus in a very strong way to the commoditising part of our business.

This is not an easy thing to do obviously but I am very hopeful about the future. You cannot look at the optimism and the execution of the strategy from the point of view of guidance in a particular quarter or a particular year. The long term trajectory, the revenue per FTE has improved, the margins have held steady and we have grown in line with the industry despite all that has been going on.

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So I am very optimistic about the future. In terms of the 6.5-8.5 per cent guidance, this is based on what we see. A lot of people have deferred guidance but we thought about it, we looked at what the environment is that we see and obviously we have learned from what has happened in the last several quarters.

That was something I was coming to. Considering you have missed guidance thrice in the last fiscal year, does this also cushion possible risks? Is that why it is perhaps a more conservative number than what the street was expecting?

I do not want to use the word conservative or non-conservative. It is whatever is the opposite of conservative but obviously we have learnt from what has happened in the last many quarters and our philosophy, our approach is the same. We want to make sure that what you see is what we see and as we see it. But obviously as our visibility improves and as the year goes ahead, look for two things; the new services that we have in the next generation area for our clients as well as the software led services. These are the things that we expect will not be affected by the traditional seasonality that we typically have in Q3 and Q4. As we go forward in the year and as we see the evolution of the new areas, I feel very confident and we will obviously change our guidance as we see it. But this is what we see right now.

It is a landmark that you have crossed this $10 billion figure for FY17 but the $20 billion figure for 2020 looks a little unrealistic now. Is this more of a moon shot and not an actual target that you are working towards?
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You know Praveen was telling me that many years ago at Infosys, we had a $10 billion aspiration by 2010 and we just crossed $10 billion. So it is something that is an aspiration, a moon shot is a great word for it.

Obviously it is an exceedingly difficult target to achieve now and especially with what we have seen in the last few quarters but the important thing is that the framing of strong growth while improving margins and especially improving revenue per FTE is a great way to frame our endeavour which is to transform the company into a next generation company that brings AI and automation into the commoditising world and into breakthrough new areas and become an innovative company.

 


The reason why I am harping on this is you say it is an aspiration but when we spoke to Mr Seshasayee some months back, he said that it is a target that is also linked to your compensation and trajectory going forward. I want to understand if there is a change in the board’s thinking as far as this is concerned?

This you have to ask the board but as I said like many others in the industry and just ourselves in the past, we have always had ways to rally the company around specific aspiration and it is what it has always been. Whether the board chooses to link specific payments to some of these milestoes is a different matter but we cannot mix these things with financial goals. Clearly we want to get to $20 billion, 30% and $80,000. It will be very difficult to get there by 2020 but it is the right way to frame the strategy that we have embarked on which is consistent profitable growth while improving revenue per FTE and productivity and achieving strong revenue growth.

What changes do you anticipate in your business model going forward, factoring in the changes in H-1B visas?

We have been working on that. More local hiring, more local training and more embrace of technology to help better collaboration and more seamless experiences and presence so that diverse teams across the globe can work together more efficiently.

A healthy mix of local talent and a global talent is anyway a good thing and we have to focus on innovation for our clients. We have to focus on delivering value to them not because we get somebody on a visa that is cheaper but because we bring in talent whether it is local or global that does things that nobody else can do. And if you focus on that, everything will be fine.

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There has been an important change at the board level. There is also a capital allocation policy that has been outlined. With these two developments in mind, do you expect the friction to come down to a large extent between the founders and the board because you did mention unanticipated distractions in your statement which I am assuming are distractions involving the promoters? But do you think that headwind is sort of out of the way now that the board has taken note of their concerns both on capital allocation as well as board composition?

I do not want to speculate on that. I have no idea. I mean it has been distracting especially if you look at this…

But has life become difficult if you are reporting to two chairmen?

No that is not the case. Ravi has been working with me. He has been on the board since before I got here. We have worked together very closely and I have had a tremendous relationship with Seshasayee and with the entire board. It is a very cohesive board. It is a very committed board to the endure at hand and extremely hardworking. And the last few quarters and especially the last quarter has had this additional sort of distractions but that is what we deal with. It does take your attention and focus away but I try not to let that distract me and let this affect the company.

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How have your acquisitions helped in the last two-three years?

Panaya and Skava have both had tremendous years, the best years ever. We have had Mana, Skava and Panaya and Edge together have grown more than 40%. Obviously Mana and Edge are our home grown software and Panaya and Skava are acquired. So it is a great mix and this is what we expect to see. We acquired talent from a small company called Skytree which had eight PHDs in machine learning and that has become the part of the Mana platform. We will continue to do things like that.

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